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Willem's Last Letter
 

Bapak Willem de Thouars speaking of Pak Steve Gartin


The Willem Blog
 

Bapak Willem de Thouars apologizes to Sigung Steve Gartin for lying about him and Chas Clements


Willem starts another War


Round One


Round Two

 

Round Three

 

Round Four

 

Round Five

 

Round Six - TKO

The End of the Willem de Thouars Debacle


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Notice Willem throwing the Satanic hand sign

Ron Carlson's School Seminar

Willem had been threatening to "kick my ass" and I showed up at his seminar at Ron Carlson's School on 25 May 2003 to

have my ass kicked. Willem greeted me warmly, asked me to assist him - then begged me to "come back" into his group.

This picture and the one above were taken that day. No one kicked my ass; everyone was happy to see Chas and I return.

Steve Gartin


 

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Willem & Steve

Pak Steve & Willem de Thouars at a private lesson for the Distance Learning Program that he now denies authorizing

 


 

Every so often Willem tries to track me down for the pediphile infested organization known as the Denver Joint Domestic Terrorism Task Force. {Search the term "Tim Walsh + Columbine" and you will understand why the Columbine Massacre happened and a little more research will reveal exactly WHO did all the killing there. Gay Clyman and his queer lover Don Estep have been working hand-in-glove with Willem de Thouars for many years to try to keep me from revealing the Lucifarian pedophile ring operating in Denver, Colorado and the connections to the Jon Bennet Ramsey murder and the Columbine Massacre as well as many other heinous crimes. The video Willem made for Gay Clyman and Don Estep can be found here.

 

Below is another of Willem's attempts to anger me into contacting him so that Gay Clyman and his queer lover, Don Estep, could track down my location and murder me before I could reveal their perverse agenda and henious criminal activity.

 


Instead of calling Willem, which would have enabled the Lucifarian Butt-stabbers to track my location, I instead communicated with Willem through re-mailers and when the Lucifarian queers discovered that I was not going to reveal anything, Willem suddenly ceased trying to contact me. I set him up to converse with the KunTao Silat People on the KunTao Silat Forum, but Willem never answered the first post and has not tried to contact me again until just recently. Willem is a member of the KTS Forum, so he will be able to respond and to freely post his opinions and position.


 

"Uncle Bill" a.k.a. Willem de Thouars has joined the American KunTao Silat Forum and Steve asked me to announce that he is open to questions and repartee from the AKTS Family!

 

So: Welcome Uncle Bill, from all the AKTS Family! The floor is yours  ;D

Visit the KTS Forum Topic


 

Willem's last email to Steve follows from last to first order:

With the concurrency of devastation you was a victim of, (Learned that out a lawbook, as a lawyer's standard version - In the Rights of a Citizen) and circumstances - I can easy see, why you prefer  a cave, over a humanistic settlement - with many people in Urban living.  As a brother, just concern.

Steve, (at my age), I really become a more resourceful thinker by studying History at large. History, taught me a lots more in finding my nature back in spirit.

I read Ceasar's commentaries, (almost everyday), in which Ceasar declined his wishes with the Syrians as party going soldiers, in being disorganized and feared the Germans more at Gaule. ( The Rhine river lands). He was dying to get Pompey at his side - to resque them from the Pirates, who were plundering their foods supply and for the sake of Rome. Pompey did, after nearly killing 1.5000.000 villagers and pirates. Hitler was not the only one who killed millions, comparing him with Stalin and Generalism Mao Tze Tung. Stalin killed his own family and another 30 to 40 million, and Mao, around 60 million. The history of mankind generates in a continued battle, that all our troubles, reside in the nature of men. My kun tao teachers family, in Shandong Valley (Fuekchin) were all killed by the communists.

You may not belief in me anymore, in what I had to become - more like a source of history in research, and in nature and in penmanship (now the keyboard) - relates most of my written issues more to George S Patton ( my greatst legend) - Napoleon, the Corsican ( a total Field artillery, a genius) and for sure my most loved and beladed Howard Cossel, whose actual name was Cohen ( Cowan).  I met Howard Cossel, as a sailor in 1957, in upper Manhatten. Cossel Who had established a successful lawfirm ( was Harvard educated and out Oxford) became bored in dealing with people - went later to Sports Broadcasting. He brought Jacky Robinson,( the base ball player) and also the first black athlete, to one of America's best. And Classius without Howard, was never so greatly advertised. (How your skinny older brother learn to become a prankster by arranging trouble amongst people). Patton loved General Sherman, was a true addictive follower of Sherman's battle plans and thought sometimes to be a combination of Ceasar and Napoleon.

I am always grateful for the very best and overseer over all American Generals of the Second WW - the honorable George Catlett Marshall - his Marshall plan in rebuilding the War Thorn nations ( to prevent a Communist take over in Europe) and did many great things. People had all forgotten about him, a total sadness to me.

After establishing a Pastor Welters Act in congress, made it possible for many Dutch Indonesians to find a new home in America. There are now well over 100.000.00 of us people residing throughout America. In America, I like to see Americans and not my own race. (Just joking).

When we three brothers, and our parents came first to America, in May, and in 1960 - Paul and Victor were constantly arguing and nearly to a fist fight, on the Santa Fee express, a train that brought us to Pasadena, California. Victor as the youngest brother, always had tried to be the boss over all the older brothers.  Chess Clements could have never (ever) put the sheer essence of the de Thouars brothers, to a better means of understanding - for us to be, more or less, as the martial comedians.  In order to keep Victor happy, have to talk "hate"

talks, to tickle his funny. With Paul, a similar idea for accomodations to his feelings. So in order to keep both brothers happy, have to steer troubles between the two - through hate talks (conversations).

They are still fighting in who was Mar Djoekie, could never have been Victor's Serak teacher. ( Was always Paul). Paul always had angered him, for me to lie for Victor on the Mar Djoekie conquest for the two enbattled brothers. The real truth is that Mar Djoekie was Victor's marble shooting buddy. I love you Steve, you my brother with more wisdom than any of my brothers. Maurice same thing, thinks of himself, for being 60 - (while him), in being 86 years old. His stories on Serak is verry much like the well known Fish Stories, we all know sowell -  a fish gets bigger, each time after a story told. Between them, my brothers and me, and the world, my reason to be a researcher to seek history out - and a confused man at large. Conclussively ending my email to you, in memorizing George Catlett marshall, as known to Winston Churchill ( the greatest Stateman of all times) in what he thought of the American general - as a wise Stateman and a true legend as an  ambasador of peace. All so true, George Carlett marshall, 1931 - 1951. He played perhaps the greatest role as a World Ambasador to International Peace. Sorry brother for my long emails, just read Ceasar's commentary and the fascination of studying Ceasar, replied in one of his commentaries by saying it in poetry.

{

Therein all the famous history

Of jason and Medaea was ywritt;.....

His goodly conquest of the golden fleece....

The wondered Argo, which is venturous peace First through the Euxine seas bore all the flower of Greece}.

Please wishing you a very progressive as well, a glorious spirital day.

With all my caring, always your brother Willem.

 

On 6/2/12, Steve Gartin <sigung@kuntaosilat.com> wrote:

 A fine evening to you my Friend,

 

 Original Message:

 -----------------

 From: Willem DeThouars willemdethouars@gmail.com

 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:01:57 -0600

 To: sigung@kuntaosilat.com

 Subject: Re: Aloha in spirit.

 

 Thank you brother and will communicate more often, in the near or

 distance future.

 

 Steve: Great, I'll answer as often as I can. Don't be alarmed if it takes a  week or more to get an answer though, since I don't go to the village  any more than necessary. I've come to cherish my solitude.

 

 Please, I am curious, since when was you released from imprisonment? Glad you are out and indeed, fought many spiritual battles you had to  overcome.

 

 Steve: September 2007. One of my friends, a judge I never sued, sent me a  message to tell me that they were planning to murder me next time they  got me in jail, so I quit playing their game. Stacked decks are not my  favourite game anyway.

 

 Funny thing, the silat tv, met many overseas friends - and also old

 friends, I had not seen since the 1950's - when I left Indonesia. Will

 be going after Scandinavia, in September of this year also (make) a

 trip to  the Philippines.

 

 Steve: If you'll send me your schedule, I'll let my Distance Learning People  know when you will be in their area.

 

 Many who hates me or many how likes me, keep on reading my hate mail,  something I learn from Howard Cossel. Just to steer up trouble to  better my English, in a literal sense. My backroom is now a library

 with 300 books and my intentsified studies.

 

 Steve: Your written presence is becoming more powerful in your old age. It  seems that you are getting a better handle on emotions. :-) Not to  mention the English language.

 

 Paul and Victor are continuously on each other's case - in who is

 better in serak.

 

 Steve: Well, this IS an election year; so maybe they can put aside their  brotherly bickering and act like a Family for a change.

 

 And for sure, according to them: " Willem knows nothing". Hard to get  mad at brothers.

 

 Steve: You'd think they would tire of that bullshit by now; but their opinion  doesn't really matter anyway . . . at least not to anyone that

 matters. :-)

 

 August of this year, is our gathering, and Keith tries to bring all

 four brothers in. I guess, I appoint myself to keep the brothers apart

 and let you open up the ceremony with a good prayer.

 

 Steve: That would be an honour!

 

 Anyway Steve, don't like to keep you to much off your other social

 duties and, wonder if you have a phone number I can reach you?

 

 Steve: There are no phones in my part of the world Willem. Next time I go to  the larger village I'll try to catch you on the phone; but don't hold  your breath. . . I don't do that any more than I absolutely have to.

 

 With a silent prayer and my, many thanks, always your brother Willem

 

 Steve: My prayers join with yours Brother. May peace, prosperity and security  be your silent friends.

 

 Steve: In YHVH's Love,

 Steve

 

 Original Message:

> -----------------

 From: Willem DeThouars willemdethouars@gmail.com

 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:01:57 -0600

 To: sigung@kuntaosilat.com

 Subject: Re: Aloha in spirit.

 

 Thank you brother and will communicate more often, in the near or

 distance future.

 Please, I am curious, since when was you released from imprisonment?  Glad you are out and indeed, fought many spiritual battles you had to  overcome.

 Funny thing, the silat tv, met many overseas friends - and also old

 friends, I had not seen since the 1950's - when I left Indonesia. Will

 be going after Scandinavia, in September of this year also (make) a

 trip to  the Philippines. Many who hates me or many how likes me, keep on reading my hate mail, something I learn from Howard Cossel. Just to  steer up trouble to better my English, in a literal sense. My backroom  is now a library with 300 books and my intentsified studies.

 Paul and Victor are continuously on each other's case - in who is

 better in serak. And for sure, according to them: " Willem knows nothing". Hard to get  mad at brothers. August of this year, is our gathering, and Keith  tries to bring all four brothers in. I guess, I appoint myself to keep  the brothers apart and let you open up the ceremony with a good  prayer. Anyway Steve, don't like to keep you to much off your other  social duties and, wonder if you have a phone number I can reach you? With a silent prayer and my, many thanks, always your brother Willem

 

 

 On 6/2/12, Steve Gartin <sigung@kuntaosilat.com> wrote:

 I'm pleased that you dropped me a line in a more personal venue Willem.

 It is good to be in communication with you again.

 

 Original Message:

 -----------------

 From: Willem DeThouars willemdethouars@gmail.com

 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 17:07:38 -0600

 To: sigung@kuntaosilat.com

 Subject: Aloha in spirit.

 

 Dear brother,

 was great able to communicate with you, and relating my reminscince,  always the best times - we had and never the bad times.  Good times  and bad times are a surpluss in the lives of an individual, they come  and go. Like wars are, today an enemy tomorrow an ally. Patton  actually wanted to use the German army, (in charge von Manstein) - to  fight the Russians. He was fired by Ike.

 

 We have had some great times; hard or easy is irrelevant ~ life is

 like that!

 

 I just needed some attention, in not knowing where you are, and my  reason for pissing you off. I knew was never a right way, was concern  about you - regardless the circumstances.

 

 Steve: Well, I haven't been in contact with the outside world much for the  last four years. I didn't mean any offense to you, and I agree that 

should have at least dropped you a note. I'll do better in the future.

 

 We shall always be brothers.

 

 Right now, have a very sensitive issue with my brothers - Victor

 wants to kill Paul, and Paul wants to kill Victor. We both, as

 believers in the spirit of the universe need to pray for them.

 

 Steve: I'll add my prayers to yours Brother. As crazy as those two are, I  love them dearly and always think happy thoughts in their direction.

 

I have used the silat tv to learn from great writers, not when they  feel good, but when they are mad. In between the lines is a great  resource. People just don't know me, that well, as you do and will do

 less visits on silat tv.

 

 Steve: Ha ha, they have missed much; but as you have always said, "a learned  gentleman conceals his skill. . ."

 

 My objective had been reached and I wrote a couple of good books - a  refreshed addition from the old diaries.  goingto be publisdhed soon in paperbag. Will sent you a copy, soon as  I received a few.

 

 Steve: I'll drop a letter in the mail sometime soon and give you an address.

 

 My backroom where I had challenged those city slaggers, is now my

 study room and research centre, Belief me brother I am a very

 peaceful man with a lots of caring toward peace.

 

 Steve: Peace comes through power to choose, the weak have no choice in the matter.

 

 I am half Jew and with a huge French historical background dating back since  the 12th century A.D.

 

 Steve: Yes, I have studied the de Thouars Family lineage. It is indeed

 colourful!

 

 Trust me  I am in much better shape, than I ever was before. Hoping

 you will come down the city and take me out for coffee and lunch. I

 am nearing my 80's brother, and 76 now - and still a trouble maker.

 Always in spirit and care, your brother Willem.

 

 Steve: I'm pleased to hear that your health is improving as the years go by.   It is a joy for me as well, in my mid-60's to be able to make the natives  pant when trying to keep up with me. :-)

 

 Steve: Keep happy thoughts and know that you are in my thoughts and prayers!

 

 In YHVH's Name,

 Steve

 

  God Bless America!

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